I had a chat with my old friend and one of Wales's best surfers, Tom Anderson and the exceptional surfer Elliot Dudley. You can listen on all the podcast platforms from what I gather. Here is one of them, simply click through and hit play. It is also linked in my socials too if you find it easier to from the link in bio.
You may have read some of Tom's books. He has been writing for years now and has some of the most popular surfing books available at all the usual places.